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As God-fearing Christians who believe the Bible to be the unchanging Word of God, it is up to us to believe what the Good Book says in it's entirety, and then do our best to live our lives in accordance with all of it, not just the parts we particularly like. Having said that, I submit to you, the faithful KDE-Look.org viewers, my very fist wallpaper and submission to this site!

shadowx8m

16 years ago

Poor christians, boohoo. I think the wallpaper is GREAT! The christians who responded to this wallpaper have themselves shown the idiocy of christianity. They show how all the different versions of the bible differ. I myself have said that I could write a version of the bible glorifying someone named Bob and bury it and some idiot a hundred years from now would dig it up, read it, and start a new religion. I've had christians tell me that it wouldn't work because god influences what the bible says and wouldn't allow that to happen, but look at how all the versions of the bible conflict with themselves. Hey christians, I got a question for ya, where did Cane find his wife? Where did the people come from that provided that wife? You people are so gullible and pathetic. Jesus was a loser and Mary was a slut.

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Maui15

16 years ago

totally. im sick of all this "crap"!!! a wallpaper is ment to have its place as a nice piece of art!! key work "ART" in my opinion this isnt art! so why dont u guys stop posting this crap and start making some decent work here! if u want to get your point across please pack all your "points" into a tar file and post them all at once b/c this is just getting annoying!..


Now please note that im not saying your message is crap im just saying the way you are showing your message is. im not going to agree or disagree with your point.. its not my place ( i just dont wanna get into it ) i really want to come to this site and see good works of art not somthing thrown together in a second. So i ask you all again to stop... you are making a fool out of kde-look.org ( wich is ment for "kde" things)

Please understand that this is my opinion i could care less if you disagree. If what i have said offends you i am truly sorry.


im sorry i dont usually get into these kinds of discutions but i belive i make a strong point that many would agree with.

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sviten

16 years ago

So if you don't like it, vote it down. If you don't want to see it, there is a setting on your user profile that will allow you to filter out those with rankings lower than a percent you can set to your heart's content.

I don't really care for this wallpaper. Space is pretty cool, but the "words over random space image" is getting a little old.

This is a community forum and I applaud the KDELOOK staff for not telling the users what they really want to see. Let's not forget to use the filter and vote system as it was meant for.

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mononoke

16 years ago

are giving the reason to filter and remove all content like that automatically !

AS YOU ALL CAN SEE IN THIS DISCUSSION, I AM TOTALLY RIGHT! we need to filter, otherwise this kdelook site is loosing its sense.
and not only me, many other people will loose interest in this site/community too !
this content is similar shit to the islamic wallpapers postings. REALLY doesn't belong to KDE,
Opened your eyes, guys! now, start thinking!

that's all!

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sviten

16 years ago

Please think...

The filter that you wish to have is already in place. Just click on the upper-right where it says, "Edit Profile". Then set the content filter to 50%.

There you go, you are guaranteed to see only art that the community deems to 50% ugly or better. =)

<sarcasm>The voting feature is over-rated. Be sure to make your opinion known by posting flames in the response forum.</sarcasm>

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muddysmind

16 years ago

It seems you took haste in making this wallpaper. You selected the worst possible place to put your text. The font is rather plain and has no connection to the picture at all. Spite makes poor art.

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jamboarder

16 years ago

f*@&ing kidding me! Even IF this was meant to be humor/irony/whatever, it simply... isn't... funny...

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whoots

16 years ago

This is a classic example of bible misrepresentation. First, if you notice he's using the NIV bible. The NIV is a "bastardized" bible according to very many protestant scholars. It is based upon bogus manuscripts "Vaticanus & Siniaticus" which where found to be unauthentic forged scrolls. The NIV bible is 90% based on these phoney manuscripts that where discovered in a "Dump" by the Roman Catholic church. Next, if you use a real bible (King James) which is based upon what is called "received text" the word "slave/slaves" is only used 3 times in the entire bible and none of which in the original Hebrew & Greek convey the meaning of American Slavery (Chattle Slavery) with which the author of this thread is cunningly trying to justify.

Also, the word Deacon, which comes from the Greek word diakones means "servant" In the Greek (NT) and in the Hebrew (OT) this word servant is the most accurate translation. Moreover, servants (slaves) in the old testiment where set free by their masters after a peroid of 7 years according to Mosaic law. Remember, Jacob was a servant (slave) of Laben for 7 years for the love he had for Rachel; however, because Jacob was deceived by Leban and given Leah, he worked another 7 years for the hand of Rachael.

I feel great pity for the author of this thread. He/she is obviously very "ignorant" in biblical etomology.

Linuxly Yours,
Whoots

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gvs

16 years ago

But I did find this part in the King James bible (online)...

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sviten

16 years ago

Slave(s) is only found twice in the KJV. The KJV uses the terms bondmen and bondmaids. These are workers who are bound to work off a debt they have outstanding with their master. Every 7 years, all debts were forgiven in Israel. Hence all slaves (bondservants) were free of their debts. This is different than the wretchedness that stains American history where people where truly considered property.

You make many damning claims about the NIV. Anyone can talk, can you site your sources? Rather than throw around names of scholars with differing opinions, let's let God be the one to choose if something is "bastardized" or not. By that I mean, have people come to know the Lord Jesus as their savior and friend by the words of the (insert non-KJV bible here)? Has anyone grown in their faith and lead a blessed life by following the words in the (insert non-KJV bible here)? The answer to both of those questions is yes; I have seen it with my own eyes. Futhermore, in mission fields around the world, people are coming to have a personal relationship with Jesus through incomplete translations of the scriptures into their native language from bibles in the missionary's native tongue (America isn't the only country that sends missionaries). The translators were not an army of 54 (KJV) or 115 (NIV) Ph. D. touting scholars, but one person who does not speak Greek, or Hebrew or Aramaic or Latin. They just made themselves available for God to use them. And He did and will continue to do so as long as there are willing servants.

So the next time, you are tempted to bash the NIV or another translation, consider that the person may not know the real Truth. The lost people of this world need hope, not infighting and doubt.

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timPLEZdrown527

16 years ago

Of course they were set free, provided their masters did not beat them to death before the 7 years were up!

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kbeaumont

16 years ago

Funny how when someone points out flaws in christianity, they always point to the books in the Old Testament before Christ.
Christianity means following of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
In the New Testament jesus said to basically ignore the Old Testament and follow his teachings in the New Testament. The Old Testament was what the followers of Abraham used, this included Jews and Mohammad. Both Jesus Christ and Mohammad taught another path. There is not one religion today that believes everything written in the Old Testament. Not Judaism, Christianity or Islam. There is also some question if the book of leviticus even belongs in the Bible at all.

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sviten

16 years ago

"In the New Testament jesus said to basically ignore the Old Testament and follow his teachings in the New Testament."

I can tell, you haven't done much bible-reading. God has a lot to say to all of us. One of which is Jesus's words, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." You can read that and the context in Matthew chapter 5.

Also, if your statement is true, why has Leviticus persisted for 3-4 thousand years?

Another cool thing about the bible is that certain concepts are really important to God. Those things are repeated. For example, read Joshua chapter 1 for tips on how to lead a nation. Courage is mentioned 4 times. Likewise, many of the things written in Leviticus are repeated in other books (mainly Numbers, but you will find a consistent theme, if you look).

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timPLEZdrown527

16 years ago

"Slaves, obey your human masters with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ." (Ephesians 6:5)

Last I checked, Ephesians is in the New Testament, so we as Christians are allowed to keep slaves. God says so. It is in the Bible.

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Brandybuck

16 years ago

You've taken this verse completely out of context. Your quote is telling slaves who are Christians how to behave. Just a tiny bit later on, it tells masters how to behave:

"And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him." (Ephesians 6:9)

Paul is not condoning slavery, but merely recognizing it as a part of Ephesus culture.

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timPLEZdrown527

16 years ago

True, Paul is not condoning slavery at all, nor did he condemn it. God does not condemn slavery, Jesus does not condemn slavery, not does Paul. Read the 10 commandments where we are told to give our slaves the Sabbath day off, and also told not to covet our neighbors' slaves. The Bible supports slavery throughout. Nowhere does the Bible condemn the practice of slavery, nor do any of its main characters condemn the practice. The right to own humans as property is supported throughout the Bible. Such are the morals of God, Jesus, Paul & the Bible. As God-fearing Christians, it is our duty to uphold ALL of the Bible, not just the parts we like.

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whoots

16 years ago

This is a classic example of bible misrepresentation. First, if you notice he's using the NIV bible. The NIV is a "bastardized" bible according to very many protestant scholars. It is based upon bogus manuscripts "Vaticanus & Siniaticus" which where found to be unauthentic forged scrolls. The NIV bible is 90% based on these phoney manuscripts that where discovered in a "Dump" by the Roman Catholic church. Next, if you use a real bible (King James) which is based upon what is called "received text" the word "slave/slaves" is only used 3 times in the entire bible and none of which in the original Hebrew & Greek convey the meaning of American Slavery (Chattle Slavery) with which the author of this thread is cunningly trying to justify.

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timPLEZdrown527

16 years ago

Use whichever translation you prefer. There were many words for "slaves" used in the original Greek, Hewbrew and Aramaic of the texts. There is no getting around the fact that God supports slavery and repeats numerous times, throughout His Bible, telling the slaves to obey their masters. I did not write the texts, God did. As Christians, it is our duty to follow ALL of the Bible, not just the parts we like.

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gvs

16 years ago

I first thought this to be a joke!
Yet google turned up that it is really in the bible!
LOL

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Chris308

16 years ago

You had to google to confirm? Sad, I guess you do not own a Bible of your own!

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gvs

16 years ago

What would an atheist possibly do with a bible?
It would be a very silly thing to own.

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Soyburg

16 years ago

Most people on this planet don't.

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lazychris2000

16 years ago

i wouldnt go as far as to say that....

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Soyburg

16 years ago

According to http://www.religioustolerance.org/worldrel.htm there are about 2 billion Christians on this planet. There are about 6 billion people living on this planet. A majority would be more than 3 billion. Am I missing something? Or do you suspect that all the Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists and Jews have a bible hidden somewhere?

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timPLEZdrown527

16 years ago

Because it lets you know what is moral, such as how and when it is appropriate to buy slaves and keep them as your property. Just remember, once you have bought your slaves, in accordance with God's Will, be very careful how you choose to beat them, to insure you do not sin. Don't beat them hard enough to kill them on the same day. Instead, beat them only hard enough, so they do not die for the next day or two (Exodus 21:20-21). It is the moral thing to do and God clearly states in the Bible this is ok!

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