
Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements
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This is a kind of program which i think
is missing in kde. You can easyli see which programs you have already installed and which you would like to install.
You can search for programs also in different categorys and so on.
I think that this would make kde and linux much more easyer to handle.
I know there is a similiar program called kpackage but it's really bad. (my opinion) :-)
Thanx guys & girls!
Bye
15 years ago
Many people have already asked me if they can download anywhere this app.
This is just an idea of a program which I think is needed.
Maybe i will soon put a description on how the program should work.
Thanks to all who voted for this application because this proofs that something like this is missing.
THANX!!!
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For all of you who would like to see
this program as a reallity you can vote
for it here:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106533
CHEERS!
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15 years ago
Many people have already asked me if they can download anywhere this app.
This is just an idea of a program which I think is needed.
Maybe i will soon put a description on how the program should work.
Thanks to all who voted for this application because this proofs that something like this is missing.
THANX!!!
***************************************
For all of you who would like to see
this program as a reallity you can vote
for it here:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106533
CHEERS!
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yakamoz
13 years ago
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rodesiao
15 years ago
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arenyart
15 years ago
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bratwiz
15 years ago
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qwk
15 years ago
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dirac3000
15 years ago
I think it's great and, if you are interested, you can send your screenshot to developers and/or help them to improve the gui and usability of this program.
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Brian031168
15 years ago
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vdboor
15 years ago
Just two thoughts:
- I think the left panel can be improved by using a "Qtoolbox". ie. it only shows the "Program Manager" expanded, and the "Search for programs" is displayed at the bottom. When you click on the "Search for programs" bar it scrolls up to the "Program manager" bar. Only one panel is fully visible. I hope I explained the widget right.
- One other question: do you have an solution to display a "detail" list in case a user finds many programs? The way YaST does this springs to my mind.
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bg123
15 years ago
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ogott
15 years ago
maybe i don't get it, but as i see it, there is no need for yet another package management program for kde. or are you simply complaining about kpackage? what is it that you don't like about it?
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lqtuan
15 years ago
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quispie
15 years ago
This is some good shit!
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legerdemain
15 years ago
First, I just want to say I think this is a great idea. I would love to have one interface to view all programs on my system instead of having to use apt, rpm, alien, pkg_add depending on the package type. Ideas like this are what I feel Linux needs to start making a dent in the general (mom & dad) desktop market.
One think I would like to see is a way to group related packages together but I'm not sure if this is a distribution change or something this program could do. Why not say that when you install X, some basic apps like xterm, fonts, X common libraries, etc., you just see a program called X. Then, if you clicked on it you would see all of its sub-packages. Common libraries that many applications use could be grouped as system or general libraries. I think this would also make it easier to install new programs. I'm not sure about other people but I really don't care about the dependencies (especially libraries) that most applications use, as long as they work.
I'm not sure how I can help this project but I'll try to help PerpetualBurn with some UML diagrams. One other thing, there should be a small applet for GNOME & KDE such as the RedHat up-to-date program which pops up when new updates are available. I'm not entirely sure how but the two programs should be tied together somehow.
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eduardp
15 years ago
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PerpetualBurn
15 years ago
I will see if I can put some time into UML diagrams at some point to assist you though I am very busy. Maybe I can set up a mailing list for those interested in working on this app as well. While I am not experienced with QT (or GTK, never written an app for any linux desktop), I am a passionate and very design-oriented developer.
One thing I think should be noted is that this is an application that needs to be treated as an improvement of all the previous package management apps and therefore make it a priority to use the systems that are already available. For example, the developers from kPackage could be asked for help in terms of their API for the various package types, while synaptic provides some great GUI experience that could be used as a starting point for solving the problems this app would pose.
Sorry for the long message, but wanted to share my thoughts.
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apokryphos
15 years ago
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linuxcolor
15 years ago
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Rinse
15 years ago
Your mockup looks nice, but KDE already has an aplication that can show wich packages you have installed, and which packages are available: kpackage.
Rinse
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terracotta
15 years ago
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Rinse
15 years ago
kpackage already combines portage, rpm, deb and all others in one GUI.
It even works as a frontend for gentoo's emerge, or debian's APT :)
But a lot of packages will always be visible, unless you setup a completely new package system.
For instance, how would the package system know what an application is and what a set of libraries if the packager did not include somekind of information that informs about this difference?
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PerpetualBurn
15 years ago
There are also many other ways this type of idea could be designed even if it means just having a lookup of "suggested applications" that match the different packages.
While I have switched to linux completely now and have become pretty familiar, I still find the search for GOOD software amongst the tons of open source choices daunting so even slimming it down a little bit would help in my opinion, especially for newbies who need to begin with the more mature stable applications.
Also, I've seen countless people scared away from linux because of lack of suggestions of good software to start with (ie. someone who doesn't know about amarok may run some alpha program that is in testing and believe that is par for linux applications).
I think it would be worth finding a way to do despite the complications.
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zvonSully
15 years ago
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Rinse
15 years ago
But automatich downloading of source files and compiling them only works with a source framework like gentoo's, so you need more then just an kde-application with information about your installation
I'd say, if you like sources, go with gentoo :)
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thepope
15 years ago
By the way, can we have a category called "Mockups", so I don't have to waist bandwidth on non-existent and even less usable project pages on both kde-apps.org and kde-look.org?
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DarkCow
15 years ago
Can someone give me a link to the actual tar.gz/rpm ?
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