Program Control Center (KDE)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements

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This is a kind of program which i think
is missing in kde. You can easyli see which programs you have already installed and which you would like to install.

You can search for programs also in different categorys and so on.
I think that this would make kde and linux much more easyer to handle.

I know there is a similiar program called kpackage but it's really bad. (my opinion) :-)

Thanx guys & girls!
Bye
Last changelog:

15 years ago

Many people have already asked me if they can download anywhere this app.

This is just an idea of a program which I think is needed.
Maybe i will soon put a description on how the program should work.

Thanks to all who voted for this application because this proofs that something like this is missing.

THANX!!!

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For all of you who would like to see
this program as a reallity you can vote
for it here:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106533

CHEERS!
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DarkCow

15 years ago

Whoops, i just saw the other posts/changelog.
Must have had the page cached before the changelog got changed.
Pay no attention to me :/

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freon

15 years ago

I think this is a very good idea:

A distribution-package agnostic front-end for kde. It'd make Linux stronger to have a standar way of installing things.(based in diferents back ends).

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zvonSully

15 years ago

Hey man I have a new idea : Program Control Center should be a program that downloads apps sources from kde-apps(or another place) and them compiles them and makes distro packages(.deb,rpm,tgz) and installes them !
Their is an app that makes distro pack from sources kconfigure http://kconfigure.sf.net using checkinstall,but the download and browsing the apps are missing

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goldenboy

15 years ago

Hi,
to me this looks like a very nice frontend to the already existing package managers (e.g. apt with debian based distros).

But I think you're right. Kind of this programm is definitivly missing in KDE. Since I use Kubuntu there is already some graphical frontend to apt (Kynaptic) with "normal" Debian there is KPackage, but I think some kind of graphical upgrade would also enhance the usability of these programs...

nice idea!!

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philipacamaniac

15 years ago

Kubuntu currently uses Kynaptic, but may be switching to Kapture.

I haven't seen a screenshot of Kapture, but this UI design is a step in the right direction. Maybe Kapture development can follow suit?

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goldenboy

15 years ago

Actually although I'm running Kubuntu I switched to using KPackage. Kynaptic in m oppinion is not really usable since there are no progress outputs and - much more annoying - no error messages...

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Skrot

15 years ago

Wow, looks sweet. Did you consider making mockups for some existing programs like KControl etc?

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EliasP

15 years ago

Generally, this is a really good idea, but I think, it isn't realizable, because there are too much different packaging systems. What we would need first, would be an abstraction layer between packaging systems and distributions, because it would be nearly impossible to integrate all known packaging systems and distributions into this single app and wouldn't be worth the effort.

One of the biggest problems is IMHO, to unify the different distributions into a single abstraction layer, because mostly, even different versions of the same distribution aren't compatible.

So I think, to realize an application like this, we first would need a lot of other things... ;(

Greetings

Elias P.

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liquidat

15 years ago

Well, on the one hand you are right because we really need this "common installation api" (COIN, so at least I have a cool name for it :D ).
But on the other hand there is kpackage wich is able to access different package management tools.
And there is http://www.smartpm.org/ which could be the coin-api for the kde-gui.

liquidat

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loggeman

15 years ago

You have a point there...

Couldn't this app work just as a UI and the distro supplies a configuration to it!?! That way it might work even though the distro version differs...

//Logge

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polrus

15 years ago

waht about kpackage?

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liquidat

15 years ago

It supports no yum, no urpmi, no yast - that's about kpackage.
And it does not look as good as this! ;)

liquidat

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FJR

15 years ago

You're right
Kpackage is already there to do this job. And it supports the package systems of several distros. But I really like the mockup and how it looks. Though the idea seems to be inspired by Windows it is a good one. KDE has lost of good applications but many of the are unusable or to old fashioned when it comes to look. I think we definetly need more eyecandy in KDE :)
... So I will give it a try and I hopefully can give kpackage a new face :)

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MMax

15 years ago

nice koncept, it would be all KDE kompenents in the list. It Would be also handy for newcommers that switch from windows (I don't like stupid people playing with Linux, but i support good ideas).

But you have to be carefull here. There are many ways to install software onto Linux box (.rpm, .tar.gz, .deb, ebuilds,...)

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shadowrm

15 years ago

big time need for KDE, i must admit you did an awesome job in the interface setup! did you already post this in the KDE wishes? if so you've got my full 100 votes just post the link haha =)

keep up the good work! ;-D

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Gizzmo

15 years ago

Yeah,

Great Idea, I hope someone can work this out.
Maybe a nice improvement for KDE 3.5? :P

Greetzz

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liquidat

15 years ago

Here is it. :)

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106533

Vote as much as you want ;)

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biehl

15 years ago

...maybe you can work with some of the existing programs like

Kynaptic (see other post)

or

Kuroo
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16002

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bobuse

15 years ago

yes, or kpackage :)

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zvonSully

15 years ago

Theis is front end to apt for KDE : Kynaptic http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22850

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liquidat

15 years ago

Yes, but not everyone uses apt. It would be much nicer if there is a packagemanagement-independent tool to manage all the software. :)

liquidat

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google01103

15 years ago

Kynaptic is a program lacking much functionality in comparison to Synaptic and it doesn't appear to be acively developed from what I can tell. For this program to truly be useful it needs to frontend apt and access repositories.

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apt-drink

15 years ago

Not only Kynaptic is under development, but there is also Kapture. Kubuntu is currently (more or less) pushing for the two:

http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuRoadmap

Our current package manager, Kynaptic, is underdeveloped and misses a lot of features that other package managers have. Kapture is another package manager under development by the Kalyxo project based on a new library, libapt-front, which is likely to also be adapted for Synaptic. We would like to be active in Kapture development and include it in the next release. If it will not be ready by our next release we may make some improvements to Kynaptic but the focus of any work should be on Kapture. We would also like to have an installer focused on applications rather than packages with features such as extended descriptions, screenshots and user ratings. This could be part of Kapture or a separate application based on the work being done in Ubuntu on such an application.

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sleepkreep

15 years ago

Is this an application that you've created or are working on or just an idea being thrown out? The reason I ask is the download takes me to a screenshot. Is there somewhere else I can go to get it? If you're looking for help on the project contact me.

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kayosiii

15 years ago

Definately a step in the right direction. The program I use is Synaptic and it has a lot of features described above. It is however more of an experts tool than something I would through in front of a new user. Your layout is very clean. If such a program was to act as a frontend for apt. There are several features I would like to see.

A seperation of graphical apps, command line apps, libraries, development files etc. I new user probably only wants to deal with graphical apps.

The ability to add new repositories of files easily. Import a file or drag and drop would be cool.

The ability to choose any optional packages and info as to what functionality they provide.

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15 years ago

Many people have already asked me if they can download anywhere this app.

This is just an idea of a program which I think is needed.
Maybe i will soon put a description on how the program should work.

Thanks to all who voted for this application because this proofs that something like this is missing.

THANX!!!

***************************************
For all of you who would like to see
this program as a reallity you can vote
for it here:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106533

CHEERS!
***************************************

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