Unconstitutional USA.

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Unconstitutional USA inspired by the American Republic...

P.S some of these George W Bush speeches go well with this theme as a kde_start sound.

ed2k://|file|George.W.Bush.-.Dubya.Speaks.(35.MP3.audio.clips).rar|6846740|EF778B535E35C758D32E0A1C4D9707D9|/

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(above is a edonkey link to the Bush mp3's.)
Last changelog:

16 years ago

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around Rummy,Conda-whatever,Dicko and Colin..

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Download fixed..

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TubaSoldier

16 years ago

You bunch of commie bastards.

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Ersatzreifen

13 years ago

Clifford, We don't need you to tell us that Nazi's don't like the freedom of critical thought. We know that already.

Calling someone a `commie bastard' just because he doesn't like National Socialism is a logic fallacy called `Argumentum ad Hominem' --- which means "attacking the person instead of the issue". It is always wrong, and indicates that you have no rational argument to offer, so you resort to moronic insults, which is indicitave of a consideral lack of intelligence on your part.

The person who created this splash is merely pointing out the obvious - that the actions of the Bush Regime is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and HARMFULL to our nation's freedom. As such, I consider the author to be a TRUE Patriot, (as opposed to a voiceferious, self-declared, albeit faux, `patriot' of the Bush regime.)

Do you believe that your vulgar insult will somehow empower you over others, Clifford? Bush, like other Republicans and Democrats, suffers from `power lust'. Ayn Rand said that power lust is a weed that grows in the vacant lot of an empty mind.

Do you lust for power, Clifford? Is vulgarity and brutality the way to achieve the power you lust after; power over the lives of others? It worked for the Nazis. I guess you think it'll work for you too.

I believe I'll uphold everyone's Constitutional RIGHT to freedom of speech in whatever form it takes. As a former member of the armed forces, and as a true Patriot, I swore an oath to protect the Constitution from all it's enemies, foriegn AND DOMESTIC. Bush and his crew violate the Constitution daily. Of the 10 Amendments, the 3rd is the only one he hasn't violated.... yet.

Clifford, are YOU an enemy of my Country's Constitution? By attacking people who have freely exercised their rights you indicate to me that you are.

Remember:
1. Real `commie bastards' have a documented history of supressing speech, attacking those who criticize the government.
2. You are attacking those who criticize the government.
Therefore, logic dictates that it must be YOU who is the real `commie bastard' here, if anyone is.

Or are you just a Nazi?

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steves

15 years ago

Heh... amazing how some Americans really get pissed off when other Americans exercise their right to free speech...

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syagin

16 years ago

great job you did there!!!
i don't understand what the fuss is all about...
great job and that's it...
right that this should be a neutral platform... but i hope they all burn in hell
for their crimes to the world!!!

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maitre

16 years ago

Smells of republicans...

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clwoelz

16 years ago

Where?

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holgzilla

16 years ago

Say NO to censorship !!!

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clwoelz

16 years ago

OK, let me try to give you some backgroud here.
1) I do not speak for the admin of kde-look.org or kde.
2) I am brazilian and pro Kerry, so I am not offended at all with your submission. I am just worried about the consequences.

Bush in a monkey body, showing his sexual organ is very offensive for the people who support him.
Someone may want to conter-attack and draw an offensive picture of Kerry, or just say "I will not visit or use this site anymore".

I have seen nice people driven away from projects because of this kind of flamewar, and I just want to prevent this.

To avoid political differences tearing apart the community, KDE has a clear political view: it is non-politic. That means that no political statement should be communicated through KDE. kde-look, however, is not KDE so I am not sure these guidelines apply.

I hope I explained it better this time. And I repeat my request for you to remove it.

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asciiwhite

16 years ago

Bush in a monkey body, showing his sexual organ is very offensive for the people who support him.


Sexual organ?, That is the body of Goleom from the Lord of the Rings, Did you ever see his 'sexual organs' in the movie? What you are referring too is actually just apart of his clothing, which is in rags.


Someone may want to conter-attack and draw an offensive picture of Kerry, or just say "I will not visit or use this site anymore".


Well under your logic, we should ban anything 'controversial' that's not conserative media. Art is about creation and thinking 'outside the box' limiting the extend of creation is limiting art.
I'm sure you will find people offended by some of the naked/bikini art pieces done here too, Also you might find some people are offended by say...pictures of penguins, are we going to ban penguins from this site too?


I have seen nice people driven away from projects because of this kind of flamewar, and I just want to prevent this.


What flame war ??, This is a site dedicated to art submittion for kde,it isn't a forum, If someone doesn't like my art they don't have to look at it or for that fact download it and use it.


To avoid political differences tearing apart the community, KDE has a clear political view: it is non-politic. That means that no political statement should be communicated through KDE.


If this is the case, then why are you targeting my work which is one among the many of political statement pieces on this site, Looking through your 'user info' i don't see you having issues with other people's political work.



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clwoelz

16 years ago

"Sexual organ?, That is the body of Goleom from the Lord of the Rings, Did you ever see his 'sexual organs' in the movie? What you are referring too is actually just apart of his clothing, which is in rags."

Ok, you are correct It is gollum's body indeed.

"Well under your logic, we should ban anything 'controversial' that's not conserative media."

No, under my logic we should ban all political and religious stuff that may be offensive, including conservetive propaganda. Why do you think I have a conservative bias?

In the past, Neil Stevens included in the credits of his KDE application a thank you to the American Army, for "maintaining the freedom required to write free software".

People in KDE did not agree with this statement, ant the credit was removed. See more about it here:
http://www.newsforge.com/software/03/09/02/1930234.shtml?tid=51

As you can see, you cannot say that this general policy is "pro-conservative". quite the other way around: most of the KDE developers are not conservatives.

"Art is about creation and thinking 'outside the box' limiting the extend of creation is limiting art."

I agree with your definition of art. I am a big supporter of free speach. However, I am not sure this is the best forum to share and discuss art, just because "kde-look" starts with "kde". In another website, I have absolutely nothing against it. In fact, I strongly support it.

"I'm sure you will find people offended by some of the naked/bikini art pieces done here too"

I am totally against naked pictures. And I have strong reservations about bikini art, as it is a problem for muslim countries.

"Also you might find some people are offended by say...pictures of penguins, are we going to ban penguins from this site too?"

If it was a large percentage of the population, yes, I would favor banning the penguins as well.

"What flame war ??, This is a site dedicated to art submittion for kde,it isn't a forum, If someone doesn't like my art they don't have to look at it or for that fact download it and use it."

Someone could start posting pro-bush art just to counter your anti-bush art, starting a art-war :)

"Why are you targeting my work which is one among the many of political statement pieces on this site, Looking through your 'user info' i don't see you having issues with other people's political work."

Point me the pieces, and I will act with them the same way as I am doing with your piece.

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asciiwhite

16 years ago

I am totally against naked pictures. And I have strong reservations about bikini art, as it is a problem for Muslim countries.



It's not just a problem with the Muslim country's im sure you'll find alot of woman around the world that don't like to look at naked pictures of woman.



If it was a large percentage of the population, yes, I would favor banning the penguins as well.


Well this is the world wide web...
The American Republican party is a US political party,and less then 50% of American's support them, so i have high doubts that the 'majority' who visit this site have real issues with my piece, in fact so far you are the only one to express dislike. So under your logic of the majority rule, then you should have no issue with my piece either...




Someone could start posting pro-bush art just to counter your anti-bush art, starting a art-war :)


Are you being serious now?, or are you just putting up anything in the air in opposition to my piece?, If in fact that did happen that would create alot more submitions to this site creating more art so i see it only as a pro. Not only that, it will open up people's thoughts on matters like this which is only a good thing, complacency is a bad thing.


Point me the pieces, and I will act with them the same way as I am doing with your piece.


I'm not going to supply you with fuel for your fire.. I'd rather not put you onto other artists dedicated to sharing their work, If you can't be bothered to search through the ksplash entry's for them, That's their bonus..

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asciiwhite

16 years ago

I am totally against naked pictures. And I have strong reservations about bikini art, as it is a problem for Muslim countries.



IF thats the case why arn't you expressing your opinion to other pieces on this site? I think your deceiving yourself. Is it a silent protest on naked woman but a focal one on anti-republican pieces?
Here is an idea instead of attacking art why don't you sit down chill out and make some art for this site :)

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clwoelz

16 years ago

"If thats the case why arn't you expressing your opinion to other pieces on this site? I think your deceiving yourself. Is it a silent protest on naked woman but a focal one on anti-republican pieces?"

You insist I am a republican, even after telling you that I am brazilian, and pro-Kerry.

"Here is an idea instead of attacking art why don't you sit down chill out and make some art for this site :)"

Because I never seen anyone leaving the KDE project because of that, and I have seen more than three people leave the KDE project for political reasons. I would hate to see more of this happening.

Now I will stop discussing this with you, as everything I tell you you think is a conspiracy. I am trying to start a meaningfull discussion here:

Is this the place to discuss political issues (even through art)? A volunteer project rely on what brings people together, not in what takes them apart.

I am seriously trying to discuss this issue. I am not even trying to say: where is the authorization for use of gollum's body, because I know that is not the issue here. I would be really glad if you could do the same and stop nitpicking me.

Bye bye.

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qwerty

16 years ago

Wonderful, please continue to add art and information to your and our life. All art is political. All of it. Study art. Study politics, study studying.

we are not smart enough because we have been dumbed down. Pretty pretty sunsets say something. They say those somethings on many levels. A sunset image _is_ about the ecology of a planet, it _is_ about social relations. What are the historical meanings of flowers? What is happy?

You people are cutting edge. You are at the forefront of technology and culture. Linux and networks is about sunsets and healthcare. Figure out how they interact with each other and we have the beginnings of culture.

Don't let thinking become a dirty word.

Don't be dumbed down.

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maitre

16 years ago

I like it and am using it. One of George W Bush's best quotes:
"And we'll prevail, because we're a fabulous nation, and we're a fabulous nation because we're a nation full of fabulous people."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020131-5.html

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cwoelz

16 years ago

This has little to do with artwork, and is a political statement.

Also, do you have the copyrights on the charges? can you legally distribute it? give me a reason for keeping this here.

The best would be for you to remove it yourself. I surely don't want to see this space transformed in a political battlefield.

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asciiwhite

16 years ago

This has little to do with artwork, and is a political statement.


I think it's a bit off that you think you get to decide what is art and what isn't, art is about creativity and meaning, IF you want to start limiting art on kde-look.org then you should start writing up guides on what is/isn't accceptable like for one.. any political statements against USA leaders isn't acceptable but yet all the other political statements towards other country's poltical leaders is...
I think you need to go browse previous ksplash entry's and you might be suprised how much political statements their are allready. I can post some url's if you would like...


Also, do you have the copyrights on the charges? can you legally distribute it?


on the parts that i made yes, On the rest i asked for permission and got it.


he best would be for you to remove it yourself. I surely don't want to see this space transformed in a political battlefield.


I see no reason to remove it, Just like all other poltical art statements on this site. Please give me one besides you no liking it?

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telex

16 years ago

I agree that you should be allowed to post your piece here, but be aware that if you claim to have permission, you have to be able to show evidence of this.

I don't want to start some witch hunt here, but if someone were to ask KDE-Look to take it down on copyright grounds, KDE-Look would be in a difficult position unless you could prove you got permission.

Nor do I want to accuse you, but a lot of people seem to say "I got permission" when it seems obvious they didn't!

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asciiwhite

16 years ago

If for some reason my art piece is of big concern to the admin's of 'kde-look', all they have to do is email me and i will supply them with the email's of concent from the artists in question...


I didn't realize the constitution in concern to 'freedom of speech' had in brackets (Freedom of speech as long as the speech doesn't criticize American politicians?)

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anonymous-hive

16 years ago

Well to begin with, this web site is owned and run by somebody in Germany, so I'm not sure your constitution is so relevant, though the German constitution and the EU constitution also guarantee freedom of speech ;)

Anyway, like I said, you can post what you like on this site, but be aware, as all contributors must, that there may come a time when you need to show proof of ownership, permisison, etc.

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16 years ago

---1.01
* Fixed up the outlines *
around Rummy,Conda-whatever,Dicko and Colin..

---1.00
Download fixed..

:)

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