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Yet another idea about improvements
to the K menu.
Last changelog:

17 years ago

It looks like i wasn't making myself clear
enough about what i'm trying to suggest here. so i made yet another drawing,
this one shows how a menu could look like
but with all special items DISABLED.

now the first screenshot shows the full
menu with the mail notification and such,
and the second one shows how it would
look like without them.

(The way the submenu opens up remains
part of my personal wishlist ;o))

Damian

Lovechild

18 years ago

Your day plan is scary...

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dirac3000

18 years ago

Ok, I was saying I don't like huge menus and these heavy stuff, but the second screenshot looks better!
I think thet the ideat to integrate some applets (or thing like this) in the k-menu works fine, and the second scrrenshot, that is smallest and looks "lighter" than the first one and than the XP one, may be the right way.

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philippfrenzelde

18 years ago

I really like the second one. It looks
like form follows function!
So please try to get in contact with the
developers, so they can start coding;)

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helmers

18 years ago

...is actually just this.

But we can beat them. With the new "dashboard" included in MSN 8, which will probably be their standard browser in the future, integrating stuff into the menu and shell is top priority.

We should make it better, and release before they do. And when I say better, I mean more customizable, easier to understand at first and more efficent.

I want to be able to look at
1. how many e-mails I've gotten
2. Important appointments
3. System status /load
4. Upcoming tasks /cronjobs
5. Weather forecasts
6. News headlines

...and I wouldn't mind if it were easely accesible in the start panel. But working on concept is very hard, and extremely important. Also, what the panel really needs is cleaning up. It should be better sorted into sub-categories.

Great that someone took initiative!

--
Helmers

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dimitri

18 years ago

nothing more to say. Now we have to hpme that the developers can realize that (but I think there should be no doubt that they can)

Dim

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secretmethod70

18 years ago

I like the second one. There could be *some* improvements, although I'm not sure what exactly is missing at the moment ;-)

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Xanadu

18 years ago

> There could be *some*
>improvements

I'd suggest to "establish alabi" as an action item as well. Other than that, I agree, I think it looks good.

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PARENA

18 years ago

But isn't it gonna be annoying that if you opened a 'folder'-type menu on the left side, it's on top of the right side of the menu? If you want to get something from the right side instead, you have part of the menu on top of it. But this can be overcome, of course. The concept is great.

I don't know about the tasks thingies in the menu, though. To me, those belong in the system tray.

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damiancito

18 years ago


I'm determined to make another
post on this subject.

probably i'll add several "screenshots"
with differently organized menu items..

i'm going to use the input i'm getting here, so please be specific about
your likes and dislikes
(and if you do not like something, please make a suggestion. "it needs work" is hardly an useful remark. i already know that ;o)

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uga

18 years ago

Good work. Please keep in mind that it should be something possible to be implemented. Otherwise there's no way the developers could take it seriously.

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damiancito

18 years ago

Yeah, i try to keep that in mind.

However, i think even the slightest
change to the way the current menu
works (just a plain, ordinary and simple
list of stuff) requires a new menu "widget"
to be programmed and implemented from
scratch...

we know by now that it is possible to
add things that are useful, and that people like
a lot.

the "plugin interface" concept would
absolutely RULE. imagine a menu
that would start up simple and small but able to grow into any number of
things...

as i'm typing this, i've already started
a new drawing. I'm using some of
your ideas, too (today's appointments and such)
but of course, this is, most likely,
the kind of thing that a plug-in should do.


can

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uga

18 years ago

If these plugins could be implemented without breaking the API for kicker...

If that's possible, adding a new widget type shouldn't be much trouble, I think. Extending something is not usually difficult. Extending something without breaking the previous implementation thing is a bit more complicated...

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everaldo

18 years ago

IMHO

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uga

18 years ago

I like the way you expand the menu. Rally lovely!

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schnoopy

18 years ago

your idea is cool, but there's one thing i prefered with uga's: it's very usefull to get the schedule, the emails, maybe a todo-list and so on somewhere there (plug-in interface?).I also like the idea to have _frequently_ (not the last) used apps somewhere to access quickly. The L'n'F could be improved somehow, although i like some of your ideas...

Franz

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Kircle

18 years ago

a bit xp-like, but not bad. i especially like the way you have the programs listed straight out rather than having to click on a "programs" menu like in xp. i minor suggestion i would make would be to not place the "new mail" button next to the "lock screen" button. you can imagine the initial confusion when a user expecting to read his/her mail has the computer lock up instead... :)

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deech

18 years ago

just wanted to say i like this very much, not just the graphics but also the simplicity of the menu. KDE team plzzzzz implement such a menu in the next version....

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korsam

18 years ago

This is definitely something that needs to be put to use in the next KDE version.By the way...nice wallpaper.

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gunman

18 years ago

oh, very nice. this one is great.
i love it. this could be an very good approach to simplify the menus.
greeting
gunnar

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davidsansome

18 years ago

I've been working on something like this too (except mine's blue and VERY XP-ish :-)). Maybe I'll try to implement this into KDE soon

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everaldo

18 years ago

cool!!!!!!

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mathjazz

18 years ago

I like the idea of only 5 entries in menu, which makes the usage of kmenu much easier. The information area in the top is also very nice.

Instead of New Mail notification we should have a Change User option, which is more useful. And it's better to have email notification in kicker applet.

The right panel is not very useful, because usually we have the same icons on desktop or in kicker. However, it would be a great idea to add an "expand menu" feature to these entries. That would make the right panel very useful.

Your idea of the new kmenu reminds me on XP, but it' nothing wrong to import good things from XP, OSX or anything else. Windows XP also has some KDE features! We are opensource, of course, so we can even improve these things.

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Goamaus

18 years ago

...as it is! It's perfect!!! Better not to overload it... I LOVE IT!

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voz

18 years ago

Hmm, I recognize this concept from somewhere... :)

Seriously, the left side looks very good. Clean and bright. Replacing the current KMenu with something similar to the left pane would be very nice.

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daniele

18 years ago

Actually the Kmenu is far from being simple and intuitive.
It has too many higher level entries that mess up your mind, and finding apps is quite complicated.
I don't know if the idea you are proposing leads to a complete and efficient solution (I mean, anything can be accessed, and it can be done easily), but this is a step in the right direction.
And now submit this to the K-wishlist :)

Daniele

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17 years ago

It looks like i wasn't making myself clear
enough about what i'm trying to suggest here. so i made yet another drawing,
this one shows how a menu could look like
but with all special items DISABLED.

now the first screenshot shows the full
menu with the mail notification and such,
and the second one shows how it would
look like without them.

(The way the submenu opens up remains
part of my personal wishlist ;o))

Damian

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