Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Does it help to adjust the contrast slider in the kcontrol color dialog? You have to restart your applications after that to make changes take effect. - Sep 24 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Thanks but - No, it won't be the KDE 3.2 default.

I think it's a bad idea to change KDEs default style for every minor release. Not that advanced people who maybe don't even know that there is a possibility to change the style and are used to Keramik would find it annoying to accustom to the new style; whereas people who don't like the look of Keramik and know what they want can just switch to another style...
Secondly, Plastik is just not as technical "perfect" as Keramik; E.g. there are some minor issues like pixel errors in KDE 3.2 konqueror tab bars I've not been able to fix so far. Some might not even notice them but IMO it *could* be bad for KDEs fame or what and I don't want to take the responsibility for that. :) - Sep 18 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Which distro are you using? Any problems compiling other kde styles/apps? - Sep 18 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Thanks for you feedback.

I wanted to get rid of the dots because they look somehow ugly on the scroll bar gradient, especially with a button color other than gray and actually I like the lines. ;)

Well, in case there are others who prefer dots to the lines I will revert to them and maybe fine tune them a bit... :) - Sep 18 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Maybe someone other has any idea but I can't help you with this, sorry. - Sep 18 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Yes, the scrollbar deco is one thing I don't like very much too. I will try to improve them but actually I don't have an idea of how at the moment. :) - Sep 12 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Hope that helps: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=7559&xexpand=33593#c33593 - Sep 11 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

If you still have the source directory of the old one, it's generally the best to do a "make uninstall" first. If not, it's not that bad here as the new one just overwrites the old files anyway (of course only if you have choosen the same prefix). ;)
Then just restart applications to make them use the new style... - Sep 04 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

[can someone help me figure out why i can't compile any of the themes from this site? i'm a complete linux newb;]
You have to install Qt and KDE development ("qt-dev" and "kde-dev" I suppose) packages, they should be in mandrakes package manager. - Sep 03 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Hi Duff,

Ok, Sorry. ;)
KDE CVS is the development version of KDE which will be released as KDE 3.2 in a few weeks.
There are some changes which make the panel look a bit better but you will probably have to wait until KDE 3.2 is out. - Sep 02 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

For the screenshot I've used KDE from CVS where the kicker got some improvements...
The iconset I'm using is called "Nuvola", you can find it here on kde-look. - Sep 02 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

This is for languages which are read from right to left, you can try it by starting a qt/kde app with the "-reverse" flag. - Aug 30 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Yupp you are right. This is already on my TODO (in my head ;) ) and when I'm on the reverse layout thing for tabs I will take care of it. - Aug 29 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Well, let's see. :)
I don't expect big changes from now on but if there are any I will of course try to make them available for KDE 3.1 too. - Aug 29 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Have you installed the kde- and qt-dev packages? These should include the necessary headers.
Then (if configure doesn't detect them on its own) they are located at $KDEDIR/include. - Aug 28 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

[2) I'm noticing the no title drop-shadow problem too (mdk 9.1, kde 3.1.3, qt 3.1.2, gcc 3.2.2)]
Okay, Thanks. At the moment I cannot reproduce this since I've no kde 3.1.3 installed but I'm still on it... ;) - Aug 24 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

[He's problably running KDE CVS version.]
Yep. :) In CVS there are no annoying borders in the kicker anymore. - Aug 23 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

The window decoration is knifty: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=7290 - Aug 23 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Hehe... this looks cool; IMHO it is much cleaner than "normal" tabs.
I see one problem (well, two ;) - it's hard to implement) though: usability. Most users are used to get their normal tabs and in fact I find the logic of normal tabs more plausible. ;)

What do you (and others) think?

btw: is this just a mockup or do you have a piece of code which does this too, like the list view header thing? :) - Aug 22 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

This is just a simple user interface file put together with the qt designer, you can get it from http://www.tnt22.com/files_sandro/testform.ui if you like it. Execute it with "designer" or "kmdr-executor" (shipped with quanta plus). - Aug 22 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

Cool, hope these small captions will be supported by kde toolbars soon, looks interesting! I will do my part... ;) - Aug 21 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

For window decorations there is a good tutorial by David Johnson: http://usermode.org/docs/kwintheme.html

Unfortunately for kde widget styles, there is no tutorial except a short style overview in the qt docs (http://doc.trolltech.com/latest/customstyles.html) I know of and likely some basic C++/Qt/KDE programming knowledge is needed.

I just started carefully reimplementing some drawing routines from the "dotNET" kde style and looking sometimes in the "Keramik" sources...
The KDE and Qt API docs (especially for the the classes QStyle, KStyle, and QPainter) were _very_ useful: http://doc.trolltech.com/latest/ , http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/cvs-api/.

hope that helps - Aug 21 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

Don't know, maybe the shadow option in the config dialog isn't checked? - Aug 21 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

Thanks for your great feedback, my TODO has grown... :) - Aug 21 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

Uh, I have the same problem... no idea why it happens but I will try to tackle strange behaviour...

Thanks - Aug 21 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

http://www.tnt22.com/files_sandro/color-shemes/Plastik.kcsrc - Aug 21 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

[(I don't really like the combo boxes though, looks a bit weird.. like it doesn't really fit together)]
Do you mean the combobox in the first screenshot (which is highlighted because my mouse was above the combo) or the comboboxes in general?
If combo boxes in general... do you have an idea of how to make it better? Perhaps draw non-editable combo boxes in the style like keramik does (draw the "content part" like a normal button)? - Aug 21 2003
Plastik

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by ceebx 233 comments

[ And by the way, I agree with you that the standard toolbar separators from the KDE themes are ugly, but I'm sure this guy (from the style on this page) can make them look nice and actually make it some wanted eye candy :) ]
Yeah, I will try to do this and the radio button thing too, it just looked ok for me on my old CRT... ;)

Thanks. - Aug 21 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

Uh, still smaller? :)
You can play around with the TitleHeightMin setting in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinkniftyrc , don't forget to choose a small enough title font size. These values get overwritten when you change something in the config dialog. - Aug 08 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

hi!

I like your ideas and I'm glad to see you trying to help me to make the best window decoration ever :-) but personally I'm in doubt about the "all-in-one windeco" which is suitable for every purpose.
IMHO it is better to keep the features low and the config dialog clear (e.g. as it is at the moment ;) ) and instead create more decorations with a different look (and of course a similar feature base as knifty, hehe!).
Also I'm planning to put less time into my windecos and I want to _try_ to implement some ideas about a kde widget styles I have at the moment... :) - Aug 08 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

Uh! The files had the wrong permissions, now it should work.

And: Sorry for my english. I'm still learning... :) - Aug 07 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

Hehe, this is for the curious amongst us. ;-) - Aug 07 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

You can download them from
http://www.tnt22.com/files_sandro/color-shemes/ - Aug 07 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

Ok!
I wasn't aware of this feature but this might be useful so I will implement it... - Aug 07 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about(I didn't change something on my kicker ;) ). It might be an improvement in KDE CVS I'm running... - Aug 07 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

jepp! ;-)
thanks, its fixed now... - Aug 05 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

Uhm... I'm running KDE CVS (HEAD) too, this should be ok... - Aug 04 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

Hehe, it would be very cool to see knifty included into the KDE distribution but... well, let's see.

The purpose of the line was to better indicate the window active/inactive state but also I think it looks somehow pretty. ;)

Some of your other proposal IMHO make sense, i will take them into consideration...

Thanks, you will become my official feedback-guy! :-D - Aug 04 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

I got your emails but I still wasn't able to send you an answer.
So I will do it here:

I saw the problems you mentioned on your screenshots. This is definitively a bug but I'm not able to reproduce this on my testing systems (Gentoo/Qt3.2/KDE CVS and an almost untouched Redhat 9).
Which distro and which KDE/Qt versions are you using?

Thanks, all your feedback is very useful!
Sandro - Aug 04 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

You can do this already using the KControl color module. :)
Currently the "blue line" gets its color from the "Active/Inactive Title Bar" widget color setting. In knifty 0.2 later you can do this by changing "Active/Inactive Title Blend". - Aug 03 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

This is not yet configurable via the config dialog but you can either increase the size of your titlebar font or set "TitleHeightMin=xx" in your ~/.kde/share/config/kwinkniftyrc, section "[General]" which is by default 19 pixel. - Aug 03 2003
Knifty

KDE 3.x Window Decorations by ceebx 100 comments

Jupp, I noticed this too. This is because the titlebar obtains its color from the window background. Perhaps I will add a setting which allows people who prefer a more easily readable title to the current appearance to obtain the color from the titlebar foreground color. :)

BTW: I tried to answer your mail about the alloy issue but your providers MTA sends them back with an "Desculpe: este usuario excedeu seu espaco para mensagens!" - Aug 03 2003
Alloy

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by dbrownlees 138 comments

I'm from germany, near munich, not sure where Daniel is from! ;-)
I like your ideas about the titlebar height but for now I won't get them done... at the moment, the whole thing is sort of optimized for fixed sizes and it would be a real pain to do that. ;-) Perhaps I will clean this up next days/weeks but I can't give any guarantee...

BTW: I will upload a new native win deco on kde-look soon you might be interested in. :-) - Jul 30 2003
Alloy

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by dbrownlees 138 comments

hey,

I hope, I understood you correctly!
The "shrink borders for maximized windows" and the "border size" settings are two different things. While the first one just optionally does the "WinXP behaviour" for maximized windows, thus making buttons etc. more easily accessible (independent of the pixel settings), with the border size setting it is possible to change the borders' thickness for non-maximized (or with the shrinking option disabled for all) window states. - Jul 30 2003
Alloy

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by dbrownlees 138 comments

hi,

Well, I'm confused. :)

With Alloy 0.4.1 (and the option "shrink borders for maximized windows" checked) the feature you requested works for me, doesn't it?
Now if you maximize a window, the side borders of the deco hide and the buttons can be accessed like in Win XP. Or did I get you wrong?

regards, Sandro - Jul 29 2003
Alloy

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by dbrownlees 138 comments

Probably the files have been installed somewhere in /usr/local where the Control Center doesn't look at.
You can remove them with "make uninstall" and then install Alloy again with "./configure --prefix=/usr" ... - Jul 06 2003
Alloy

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by dbrownlees 138 comments

hi,

At the moment I'm trying to make the deco look similar to the original alloy Java Look&Feel from Incors which doesn't have round borders.

But if more people request this feature I will do this "sometime" (perhaps optional)... - Jun 30 2003
Alloy

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by dbrownlees 138 comments

Great idea. What I will try to do is to move the buttons closer to the left and right corners for maximized windows. this should hopefully do the trick. ;)

regards,
ceebx (Sandro) - Jun 30 2003