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Karamba & Superkaramba by victor73 100 comments

Well, it seems like I can't reply to your responses to my rebuttal, so I'll just do it by replying here.

I do see now that you did not in fact say that the Golden Rule came specifically from Christianity. That was a mistake I bet came from me reading too fast... I understand your point better now and completely respect that view.

I would like to point out though what CS Lewis attempted to prove by compiling (in the appendix of the Abolition of Man) the laws of many ancient civilizations. That is, that the Golden Rule did not originate from any religion, but is rather a universal pattern of thinking innate to all humans. I agree with that premise, but here isn't really the place to debate it. Since I agree with Lewis on this point though, I don't believe that Western Liberalism can be proven to have originated from Christianity. But for one who doesn't accept Lewis' idea of the Tao, your position would make perfect sense.

Just thought I'd point that out. I'm glad my rebuttal was civil, I tried to make it so, sometimes I can get carried away :) - Aug 31 2004
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Karamba & Superkaramba by victor73 100 comments

Okay, I will offer a rebuttal.

First, writing someone off as insane is far too easy to do, and is often done with those who practice terror or are responsible for genocides. However, it is a very rare case indeed when these people are actually insane.

As to the idea that there are no organized networks of militant Christian groups, that is completely false. I would point to the KKK, the Aryan Nations, the Aryan Brotherhood, the Christian Identity movement, the World Church of the Creator, and the White Patriot Party among plenty of others.

I will not disagree with the statement that in recent times militant Christian movements have killed much less than fundamentalist Islamic terrorism has, but I would like to offer as to why that is the case.

Fundamentalist groups typically form as a response to something that a group of people perceive as evil and something that must be countered. The United States was founded by Christians and Deists for the most part, and accordingly, most of the American population can trace ties back to Christianity. The United States is also the most powerful nation in the world, undisputably. It has had very pronounced effects on the world recently, due to globalism and the spread of American culture via this route. To fundamentalist Muslims, this American culture (which is now extremely secular and godless in nature) represents a great evil (hence the Great Satan name) that must be stopped at any cost. Since the American culture and government are the most dominant of each of those categories in the world, there are more Muslims that feel threatened than Christians that feel threatened. I submit that if the most powerful nation in the world were an Islamic nation, Christian fundamentalists groups would be killing and would have kiled more than fundamentalist Islamic groups in recent times. - Aug 31 2004
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Karamba & Superkaramba by victor73 100 comments

Oh, and I'm a leftist, politically-liberal Christian myself...

I do admit that Christianity does preach the Golden Rule, but it is not the only religion that does so, as you claimed. - Aug 30 2004
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Karamba & Superkaramba by victor73 100 comments

As for your saying that liberalism appears to be based on the Golden Rule, I would say you are indeed correct.

However, this Golden Rule is in no way exclusively or primarily Christian.

I assume you are familiar with CS Lewis. In his work entitled "The Abolition of Man", Lewis makes the case of a universal knowledge of right and wrong (a conscience, if you will) that is present in every man and every civilization. He calls this the Tao (Forgive me if you know all this already). One of the ways he makes his argument is by pointing to the examples of basic laws that have been found in many different civilizations. A good portion of the civilizations he uses as examples would not have been affected by Jewish or Christian law.

For the Golden Rule, I will refer you to these examples to demonstrate that it cannot trace its root back to Christianity or Judaism exclusively. First, look at the teachings of Ancient China's Confucius in the Analects where he wrote "Do not impose on others what you do not desire others to impose upon you."

Also, look in the Hindu book called Mahabharata, book 5, chapter 49, verse 57 which says "Let no man do to another that which would be repugnant to himself."

Additionally, the Buddhist sacred literature of Udanavargu in 5:18 where it says "Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful".

And lastly, look at Socrates' pupil Isocrates, who said "What things make you angry when you suffer them at the hands of others, do not you do to other people".

There, you finally get a decent rebuttal :) - Aug 30 2004
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Karamba & Superkaramba by victor73 100 comments

Timothy McVeigh was a Christian fundamentalist.

The Oklahoma City bombing killed a lot more than 4 people.

Enough said. - Aug 29 2004
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Karamba & Superkaramba by victor73 100 comments

Evidence for the effectiveness of the system includes the fact that there has been no sucessful terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11. And this is supposed to cause "fear?"

Thats about the weakest and stupidest argument I've ever heard.

It would be like me saying that the reason no terrorist attacks have occurred on US soil since 9/11 is because I became a vegetarian after that day.

There is absolutely no way to prove your point, and its also just blantantly false. Do you really believe that telling the public that the terror threat is at a certain color has stopped anything?

Ridiculous. - Aug 29 2004
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Karamba & Superkaramba by victor73 100 comments

http://oldamericancentury.org/terrorlevel1.jpg

The terror alert level things are dumb to me, just seems like a way to keep people afraid. Just issue normal warnings... the fact that the color system was developed means my tax dollars were wasted yet again... - Aug 28 2004
GNOME Cosmos Wallpaper

Wallpapers Gnome by PhilH 5 comments

Maybe it just appears this way to me, but it seems like all wallpapers added to either kde-look are shown on gnome-look and vice-versa... If thats the case, its a pretty cool idea... - Jun 21 2004
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Wallpaper Other by TheDrake 2 comments

I like this image a lot... but is there any chance you could release it in a larger size... say 1820x1024 or 1600x1200?

Thanks! - Jun 21 2004
AnalogMachine Collection: TubeRAM

Karamba & Superkaramba by KiTaSuMbA 5 comments

This looks very promising, I love it already and I haven't even installed it yet :)

Also, where did you that sweet background? I also use Gentoo, so it would be nice to put that in my rotation! - May 11 2004
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Karamba & Superkaramba by Matti 1797 comments

Well, its working now, and I forgot to save copies of the XML data and the .rc file... sorry... if I get the problem again, I'll be sure to copy those and post them... - May 09 2004
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Karamba & Superkaramba by Matti 1797 comments

I tried changing the url field in the .rc file, I think there must be an XML parsing problem, because now I cleared the liquid_weather.html file and now when I start up the theme, it just says its downloading weather data and tells me to be patient :) My zip code/area is 99251/99218/Spokane, WA USA.

Hope this helps! - May 09 2004
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Karamba & Superkaramba by Matti 1797 comments

I just upgraded to 2.0... I'm trying to setup my location again, I entered my zip code and nearby zip codes manually, but they don't work. When I try them, the city doesn't actually change.

I also tried searching through the Find on Weather.com. It does bring up areas that I could use, but selecting them still doesn't change anything, and then the theme often hangs.

1.14 worked great for me... - May 09 2004
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Karamba & Superkaramba by Matti 1797 comments

I just upgraded to the 1.1, and am now noticing that no forecasts for future days are displaying. I get an N/A for the day name, and a displayed temp range of 32-32. I'm thinking it may be something to do with the incredible lag on my campus network right now and related timeout issues, but I just wanted to let you know in case others start complaining too. Thanks! - Sep 25 2003
The font package sounds like a great idea... I'd love to have some more good looking fonts for my system... could you upload them into a package? - Aug 19 2003
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Karamba & Superkaramba by Matti 1797 comments

Make sure you aren't setting any of the theme off the edge of your desktop. It has a transparent border that exists outside the "box". I noticed that setting any part of it off the desktop at the upper right causes it to reset to the lower right corner. Try using a background w/ stipples to see where the edge is when moving it, the stipples don't refresh thru the transparent part of the widget instantly, so you can see where the edge of the theme actually is. At least thats how it worked for me. - Aug 11 2003
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Karamba & Superkaramba by Matti 1797 comments

Do you happen to have the link for those fonts? I can't seem to find them on sourceforge. - Aug 11 2003
osX Menu

Karamba & Superkaramba by stefano 6 comments

Stefano, this is one of the better Mac-menu bars I've seen available for karamba. I do have a couple things that I think would greatly improve it though. This may be difficult, I've never made any karamba themes or done much in python, but it would be great if it would work for multiple resolutions. Also, the font does look a little wrong. - Aug 07 2003