KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

> A setting to control width. I made my own (boring, white text, all transparent) button, but I don't need it as wide as the applet makes it.

It would be more intuitive to have your button width reduced to the size you want!

like if you want your button size to be of 100 pixels wide, create a transparent new image in Gimp with "100 pixel" wide!

The applet is only arranging according to the size of the applet! so, please reduce the width of your button. - Jun 14 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

welcome aboard buddy, I agree with that KMenu is not that functional!

Do you have ideas for better KMenu? How menus, recent apps, and shortcuts etc. to be arranged? - Jun 14 2005
KLaunch2 - kbfx button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by maarizwan 21 comments

I'm not seeking your approval! If you don't like windows, it's your choice. I like KLaunch button. I'm sharing with love to all KDE users by sharing it with GPL license!

Dare not tell others what they should or should not do! You are crossing the limit of individual freedom!

I did not create this Button FOR YOU! and I'm not begging you to use it! If you don't like it don't use it! If you like it use it!

GPL = respecting the a person's right to create,copy,modify and share! - Jun 13 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

>What's the goals of this app? Made KDE windoze-like?

Yes, and no! The GOAL is evidently FREEDOM to Choose any look and feel for KButton!

If a user like Start button, we appreciate it!

You know what Love means? respecting and appreciating others' freedom is love! Let them have what they want!

>I think changing background color of kmenu button is intuitive and users will think it's a special thing - no need to be retangular or have any labels like 'start'.

Again, we respect your choice of not having a rectangular button! But you also have to respect other's freedom to choose and have a button as they deem likeable!

And YOU are not the ONLY KDE user in this Big world! There are many who would love 'Start' button on kicker!

We should respect their wishes and feeling too! - Jun 13 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

1. The Panel
2. Kmenu
3. Sidebar image
4. Icons
5. System (my computer clone)
6. redmond splash
7. system tray
8. quick launch
9. time applet
10. koffice (ms office clone )
11. Konqueror (Windows explorer)
12. konqeuror (Internet explorer)
13. Kmail (outlook)
14. Kontact ....
15. kedit (notepad)
16. kwrite (wordpad)
17. kcalc (calculator)
18. kcharselect
19. show desktop button
20. shortcuts (ctrl+c, Ctrl+v?)
(this list is just random thoughts!, if I take some time, I can show you hundreds of similarites, with windows and mac)

well almost everything is Windows like. KDE is mostly Windows like + Mac OSX, on steroids!

So what!? Does that mean KDE developers are making KDE windows like? NO! They are helping to realize an IDEAL desktop for all and free!

KDE is here to help REALIZE the dream of a "FREE (opensource), functional, attractive, and useful Desktop for ALL!"

The problem with you "windows hating kde users" is that, you don't respect other people's freedom of choice and ideas!

You (windows hating users) are so "Arrogant" that you don't want others to let them have their own IDEAS and CHOICE available! You are trying to enslave others! and you have no right to tell people what to like or dislike. It's an individual's freedom to choose anything! respect it! that's what freedom is all about!

Siraj! you are doing the RIGHT thing just like our cool KDE developers are doing by improving KDE tremendously with nice features!

If I had known good programming, I would made XPDE work! :D

The whole issue is not just about LOOKS and Feel but The MOST BASIC NEED of MAN! and that is Freedom! FREEDOM to use, modify and share with your friends, and family! - Jun 13 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

>I mean, there are endless ideas for themeing kicker and you just choose an old idea to theme it?

very true, but do you have at least ONE good idea+image?

have a look at klaunch2:
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=25263 - Jun 13 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

kbfx 0.4.5, You've fixed the bugs :) woohoo! It looks and feels good :)

I love you! ;) - Jun 13 2005
Linux and KDE button for KBFX

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by maarizwan 16 comments

Hi Niti!

find where KDE is installed by typing:
---------------------
echo $KDEDIR
---------------------
if that doesn't show anything then try running
---------------------
which kedit
which konqueror
which kcontrol
---------------------
alternatively you can compile by using these commands
---------------------
./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR
make
make intall

cp ~/kbfx/src/xp.xpm $KDEDIR/share/icons/default.kde/22x22/actions

cp ~/kbfx/src/xp.png $KDEDIR/share/icons/default.kde/22x22/actions

------------------------
Observe that $KDEDIR is important. - Jun 13 2005
Tux Start Button (Updated)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by matthewmx86 27 comments

Do you have respect for other's freedom of choice and liking?

If you don't like windows, that's your freedom to hate it.

But, If someone like windows then Again it is his/her freedom to do so!

Don't try to force others what they should or shouldn't do! and what they should like or dislike!

This freedom is guaranteed by GPL (freedom to modify, distribute, and share). - Jun 13 2005
Tux Start Button (Updated)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by matthewmx86 27 comments

Remember you need kbfx to get these icons work as kbutton!

1. extract the icons!
2. drag one of the image on the kbfx applet.

Get kbfx from: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=24898 - Jun 12 2005
tux kbfx button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by karuso 8 comments

Let's share, You take the Girl and I take the wallpaper ;) - Jun 12 2005
tux kbfx button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by karuso 8 comments

Where Can I get the wallpaper without the Girl. Please! - Jun 12 2005
Tux Start Button (Updated)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by matthewmx86 27 comments

funny how KDE users (who hate windwos) over-react! Nice work! - Jun 12 2005
Clean KDE Toolbars

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by meneerdik 4 comments

Yes your Toolbar looks good!

You are very true that the toolbar is too much crammed with icons, hence finding the right toolbutton is a trouble!

Same with KMenu, Too Many menus confuses the eye :( - Jun 12 2005
tux kbfx button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by karuso 8 comments

The Text Menu is little lower compared to the Tux image.

It would look better if you could make the "Menu" a few pixel up.

Thanks anyways. - Jun 12 2005
tux kbfx button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by karuso 8 comments

I like the button more than the wallpaper ;) is she having an orgasm? :)) - Jun 12 2005
KLaunch2 - kbfx button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by maarizwan 21 comments

Thanks buddy, I would thank the author of kbfx for his applet which makes me do this kbutton :) - Jun 12 2005
Linux and KDE button for KBFX

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by maarizwan 16 comments

usability and look and feel! - Jun 12 2005
KLaunch2 - kbfx BIG button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by maarizwan 5 comments

You are welcome buddy :) - Jun 12 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

Seems like you have not installed many devel packages.

Please install jpeg-devel and qt-devel etc. which are prompted in the ./configure script!

You can do it! Don't Stop! - Jun 12 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

Please download zlib-1.2.2 and zlib-devel-1.2.2 for your distro.

btw, which version are you using?

rpm -qa|grep zlib - Jun 12 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

the libz.so is missing!

do this and reply whether it works or not?

ln -sf /usr/lib/libz.so.1 /usr/lib/libz.so

ldconfig

cd $HOME/kbfx/
./configure - Jun 12 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

bash-3.00# ls /usr/lib/libz.* -l
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 76606 2004-10-05 00:06 /usr/lib/libz.a
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2005-05-30 13:43 /usr/lib/libz.so -> libz.so.1.2.2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2005-05-30 13:43 /usr/lib/libz.so.1 -> libz.so.1.2.2
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 66776 2005-01-24 22:32 /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.1.1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 66908 2004-10-05 00:06 /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.2

Please check the Symbolic Links! I donno for sure, but sometimes symbolic links cause much problem.

Please add your output of "ls -l /usr/lib/libz*" - Jun 12 2005
Linux and KDE button for KBFX

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by maarizwan 16 comments

lol, you did not cd to the kbfx folder ;)

try these commands: one by one!


tar -jxvf kbfx-0.4.4.tar.bz2
cd kbfx
./configure --prefix=/opt/kde3
make
make install

and read carefully my previous comment ;) - Jun 12 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

Thanks Siraj for the Menu Popup fix! I love it!

and a minor bug in 0.4.4:
How to Reproduce:

1. set your kpanel size to 'Small'
2. drag a small image (like klaunch2 or linux_blue.png etc.)
3. observe that kpanel resizes itself to 'Custom'!

Expected Behavior:

The size must not get affect with drag and drop of a pixmap on kbfx button! - Jun 12 2005
Linux and KDE button for KBFX

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by maarizwan 16 comments

You need KBFX for this button to appear!

http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=24898

if you are using slackware 10.1:
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=25286

How to compile & install kbfx:

1. download the kbfx-0.4.4.tar.bz2
2. tar -jxvf kbfx-0.4.4.tar.bz2
3. cd kbfx
4. ./configure --prefix=$KDEDIR
5. make
6. make install
7. cp kbfx/src/xp.xpm $KDEDIR/share/icons/default.kde/22x22/actions

8. also copy "cp kbfx/src/xp.png $KDEDIR/share/icons/default.kde/22x22/actions"

9. Right-Click on panel->Add to Panel->Add Applet->kbfx
10. restart KDE (relogin)

now you can drag the pixmaps from this klaunch2 theme on the button! or you can edit the $HOME/.kbfx/config file. - Jun 12 2005
KLaunch2 - kbfx button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by maarizwan 21 comments

> you seem to really want to be heard and have your issues addressed.

I want KDE to be fully functional and eyecandy and certified as 'Just Work!' Desktop Environemt (by the KDE users ;). You know I dream of KDE+Unix on every Desktop since KDE 1.1 (redhat 6.1). It's been 7 years now! Still the default install of KDE+Unix won't satisfy the average desktop user.

The Default KDE applications are not making the Desktop dream come true :(

1. krec - can't record (alternates khdrecord)

2. noatun/kaboodle - can't play vcd/dvd and streaming media (alternates kaffeine)

3. kmenu (deliberately designed by the kicker developers to NOT allow any user to fully customize it :( You won't allow any KDE user to have his/her own Menu items say like Windows Start->Programs->etc. (unfortunately no alternate kmenu applet yet! I hope someone will come up with a better Idea!)

4. a Rectangular themeable button: to woo the windows users (leading to the corporates and the hardware device manufacturer to release device drivers and softwares for Linux, forced by the large Unix user base.) (alternate: kbfx)

5. Default KDM look: yuck, the new kdm theme improves it but by default theme is disabled :(

To sum my "ISSUES"

1. KDE on every desktop
2. KDE fully functional
3. KDE Attractive (with animations+styles+themes etc.)
4. The Default KDE applications must do all which they are supposed to do:
5. Less burden on the desktop user! (asking too much info, dialogs are bothersome)

Like a Video player (noatun) should also play embedded media, streaming media, DVDs, VCDs, etc.

A desktop user would find it very difficult to find an application which will do a specific task, like kaffeine, kmplayer, etc. plays DVDs and real streams.

So, Aaron S., I've been very patience for past 7 yeas waiting to see KDE just work! but still with KDE 3.4.1, it is not :(

But I have high hopes with KDE 4.x! - Jun 12 2005
KLaunch2 - kbfx button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by maarizwan 21 comments

You know I like you! And I am not using any tricks to make you work on it! If by any chance you feel insulted, then I am really, really sorry!

There are 2 things which make people make Exuses:

1. Laziness
2. Dis-Interest

You are not the Lazy kind but the 'Disinterested' one!

I Love and appreciate all KDE developers' endeavors! But you people discard many ideas cause it takes a different approach than a standard one (according to KDE standards).

for example, Text in the Image can be hardcoded and placed into individual folders like:

themes/en
themes/gb
themes/ar
themes/hi
themes/hu
themes/xx

each folder will have 'Language specific button image'

I'm suggesting using pixmaps for each locale, and you're thinking of using 'i18n' text beside the icon!

Pixmap is more superior from the eyecandy point-of-view, and 'i18n' text is easier for developers to code!

This approach looks awkward to you, but it will work if implemented! - Jun 12 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

I wonder why is it not giving any error on my Slackware 10.1 with KDE 3.4.1 (klax packages).

kbfx compiles just fine! Donno what's going on? lol :D - Jun 12 2005
KLaunch2 - kbfx button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by maarizwan 21 comments

Thanks, Actually I worked on transparency thing after I read your comment that you like KLaunch more than any other button.


The Space issue. I don't see space here. But I guess that the ~/.kbfx/config file stores some differnt image name.

Check out the config file. and as soon as you save the config, press CTRL+ALT+Backspace. lol :D - Jun 12 2005
KLaunch2 - kbfx button

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by maarizwan 21 comments

some things to keep in mind:

- right to left desktops

What's different about Right-To-Left Desktops? one can create nice button for that too. Artists are pretty fast in that!.

For each position like Top, Bottom, Let, Right, Above, Below, Right-To-Left text, Top-to-bottom text, Bottom-to-top text, animated text all can be created. kbfx is flexible!



- translations

Ok, we can Have LINUX or MENU or KDE beside the icon. KDE and Linux require no translation and 'Menu' can be translated easily. Creating 'Translated Launch' button is also possible. A Few people with Translation can make it work!



- there is nothing that says the K menu is on the left.

And there nothing that says K is required! And I did not get you.


> i have no real beef with rectangular buttons, but the above 3 points are why it's not realistic to go with something like what you have here.

Thanks regarding rectangular button, but the 3 points are more of EXCUSES than practical implementation! Lazy people make miraculous Excuses! Remember, where there is a will, there's a way!

Talking of Realistic thing, did you ever tried creating a nice rectangular k button. And Artists are real cool in Translating and making things happen.



> that said, we do have text-aside-button support in kicker in SVN now.

Good to know that it support text-aside-button, but you KNOW, KDE inherently is UGLY, You don't make anything with a slightest IDEA of making it Themeable. Out of users' outcry you add themeing!

Why is that Default KDE apps are crippled things?

example:

1. krec
2. kmenu (configurability)
3. noatun (see kaffeine/kplayer/kmplayer)
4. kuickshow (see showFoto and gwenview)

Please care for EyeCandy. - Jun 12 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

Invalid criticism is praise in disguise ;) - Jun 12 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

To remove the unnecessary space, please restart KDE (i.e., re login). The space will go away. - Jun 11 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

Good to know that you've got it working in Mandriva :).

Please if you have artistic skill, contribute some nice buttons.

Regarding the Menu Popup delay with kbfx button and kmenu.

I See No Difference. As soon as I press the kbfx button it's there.

I'm using KDE 3.4.1 on Slackware 10.1. perhaps it is related to KDE 3.2 ??? - Jun 11 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

Right Click on the Kpanel->Add to Panel->Applet->kbfx

also copy the kbfx/src/xp.xpm to $KDEDIR/share/icons/default.kde/22x22/actions folder.

it is an applet, so use RightClick on the Panel to add/remove the kbfx applet. If you want to drag an image over the applet that is simple. - Jun 09 2005
Lsongs

Audio Apps by tommycw1 15 comments

Linspire's spirit, let them use their own applications! It's GPL yes, but we have AMAROK, XMMS, kaffeine, juk, ..., LSongs I see good for Linspire, which has limited applications.

It is prefectly ok for you or anybody to compile and use Lsongs but I prefer not! - Jun 09 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

With classic submenu type menu, we have to move our mouse more than we need to move the mouse in a 2 panel menu.

it seems that you hate xp menu, but the reason you are saying to avoid it is not valid.

The recent apps can be around 10-15, and we can have our custom apps on the side of the recent apps, which will reduce the mouse movement a lot.

even we can have shortcuts for applications. - Jun 08 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

Have you ever used Windows XP, SuperStoned? I guess not! I have used it and I know how 2 pane menu is better than 1 pane. Applications, Shortcuts, Recent Documents, Devices, etc. are just 1 click away.

in Classic menu (single pane style) finding application shortcuts are very annoying.

Oh Please, Please Siraj! make it by Default 1 panel, but allow 2 pane menu, so that we can convert XP users to Linux/Unix!

If windows ideas were that bad, then why KDE people have created the 'System' icon like 'My Computer', because they need to attract the Windows users who are in Millions, unlike Unix lusers who are in just thousands! ;) - Jun 08 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

also copy '/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession' to '/opt/kde/share/config/kdm' folder, so that kdm work with login! - Jun 08 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

You must be using Slackware 10.1's 3.4.1 packages, which has this KDELIBS problem.

Please get klax packages which work nicely with slackware 10.1 and there is no kdelibs problem:

here:
http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/klax/10.1/ - Jun 08 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

XP like, that's more convenient,

-----------------------------------
[Username]
[recent apps]----------[important links]
kedit-------------------konqueror
knights----------------kmail
ktouch---------------kwrite
skype----------------konsole
gwenview-------------kdevelop
---------------------recent documents->

Applications-> [all other apps]

Logoff---------------shutdown
-----------------------------------


allow it to also have 1 pane or 2 pane or 3 pane, but definitely XP start menu is more functional and easy to access the apps, recent documents, and shortcuts. - Jun 08 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

copy the kbfx/src/xp.xpm to $KDEDIR/share/icons/default.kde/22x22/actions folder - Jun 08 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

I'm very excited regarding:

1. include mng support.
2. replace kmenu!

woohooo, you are a HUMAN with a heart! Thanks Siraj R.! - Jun 07 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

1. Home page link should point to your nice kbfx home page.

2. .tar.bz2 (compressed archives) must have kbfx-0.4.2 folder name not kbfx, which is conflicting with newer versions and older version. please name the kbfx folder as kbfx-

3. show downloads in the kbfx homepage.

4. screenshots with different themes would be great! (of course in your home page) - Jun 07 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

kbfx never crashes, perhaps because of your nice code ;).

please place kicker in the bottom and click on the 'kbfx button', and you can know that the menu is overlapping the button! - Jun 07 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

How do i use the mng with kbfx? - Jun 07 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

Though the menu pop-ups correctly when the kpanel is on Top, Left or Right, but not on Bottom.

Why is it that Kmenu not popping up above the button instead of overlapping it when the panel is at the BOTTOM!? - Jun 07 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

Please have support for default KDE's KMenu and our Custom 'KbFXMenu' so that users can customize that also. - Jun 07 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

> What's new->
> Three more button states
> 1.) hover
> 2.) pressed
> 3.) normal
> Session Management Support
> Now kbfx will remember the last dropped button set.

> Drag 3 images not just one!
> Yes you can still use on button with built in glow effect or you can turn glow effect off and drag and drop three images of choice. simple as that.. all button states are automatically saved.

I have no Idea how to drag 3 images, and other things work! we desperately need documentation.

like a FAQ!

1. How to Install
2. Configuration
3. kbfx menu (where is it?)
4. getting themes
5. drag and drop features
6. usage etc. - Jun 07 2005
KBFX Silk (KBFX 0.4.9.3.1)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by sirajr 613 comments

I love your new kbfx site. You've done a wonderful job. It's so clean and fresh! wow, I love that! thanks. - Jun 07 2005